Re: [-empyre-] archive and search for empyre

[Christina McPhee <christina112@earthlink.net>]

Dear Charlotte et al,

-empyre- is very interested in the archive problem so we have a google-style
search engine you can find by clicking on "archives and search" from the
main menu.  Of course, you can also go through the archives in the more
laborious and linear manner--
<http://lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au/pipermail/empyre/>

Also, the empyre list is archived off line (I believe) at the Cornell
University Libraries.

One of (my) goals at least with -empyre- is to foster substantive written
discourse that can be a record for future scholars of what was going on in
our times.  Almost like the packets of letters that people used to send and
receive and keep.  Even though this raises the bar a bit on the focus of
conversation inside empyre, and restricts more aimless or casual comment, I
think its well worth it.  Most empyreans who decide to de-lurk and make a
comment, make thoughtful comments that are a resource for those who come
after.  It's a group ethos.

Thanks for bringing this up, Charlotte.

--cm  (one of the moderators)



On 8/11/04 12:40 PM, "Charlotte Frost" <charlotte@digitalcritic.org> wrote:

> I have witnessed this too, and some of the lists I read most tend to be the
> smaller ones. I also find that the archives of some of the bigger lists are
> very difficult to search. I find nettime a pain to find stuff on and I know
> others do too, which is really annoying because I wasn't online during some
> of the debates most relevant to my research, and I can't sit around waiting
> for them to published in books now can I?!
> 
> When there is no archive, they become more like Left Bank Coffee Houses etc
> and this is a very interesting arena in itself, perhaps where just having
> the discussions and conversations is what counts...and laying testament
> occurs in the art works or outcomes of such conversations....
> 
> Do you find these lists more fruitful for the production of work? Do they
> foster workable collaborations?
> 
> Charlotte
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: empyre-bounces@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
> [mailto:empyre-bounces@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au] On Behalf Of Peter Luining
> Sent: 11 August 2004 11:38
> To: soft_skinned_space
> Subject: Re: [-empyre-] Size matters?
> 
> Alan Sondheim wrote:
> 
> 
>> Almost every list I'm on concerns
>> itself one way or another with archiving, and how the archive functions.
> 
> 
> My experience is different. I'm on 37 real mailinglists (just counted
> them ;) 21 of them have no archive and nearly all of those 21 have less
> than 20 members but what's maybe of more interest here is that they are
> closed lists and that you know most of the people on this lists in person.
> I think especially the last years there's a tendency to set up small
> closed lists (amongst others by artists) because the "larger" open lists
> with archives are: 1. getting more and more in the grip of what you
> could call political interests (in the sense that you watch out before
> you email something, because who knows who's reading your mail and it's
> all rereadable in the archives) 2. unpredictable, in the sense that you
> don't know how people respond, if they respond and all  3. with more
> people connected to the net you get local lists with just friends on it
> where you can talk about easy about banal and local things, etc.
> 
> 
> 
> Peter
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